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period. we will have the last word. >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," as congress pays tribute to the viims of saturday's mass shooting, president obama departs for tucson to attend tonight's memorial. he has just arrived at andrews air force base to board air force one. inside the hospital, a picture of congresswoman giffords' husband captain mark kelly at his wife's bedside, speaking out since the first time since the tragedy, sarah palin releases an eight-minute video lashing out at her critics. >> within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn. that is reprehensible. >> the reaction including her use of that controversial phrase
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blood libel, an anti-semitic phrase. plus we're live in haiti a year after the earthquake, disease, crime, the failure of international aid to reach its intended victims. deluge down under, the catastrophic flooding. crowds are gathering at the university of arizona for tonight's memorial. thousands are expected to fill the arena where the president will be paying tribute to the victims of this tragedy and the heroes. meanwhile we have just confirmed that a fish and game wildlife officer stopped jared loughner only hours before the shooting on saturday for running a red light. as the investigation continuing, today is victim's families are coming forward. congresswoman giffogiffords' de director -- >> on behalf of my dad and the rest of our family we would like
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to give our heart felt thanks to our family, friends and the community as a whole for the oechling support we have received. we would also like to personally thank anna ballas who applied pressure to my dad's wounds until paramedics arrived. we are greatly indebted to her. >> brian williams anchor and managing editor of nbc nightly news now joins us from tucson, as you see marine one there, brian will be hosting a special edition tonight. brian, in tucson, the anticipation of the president's speech. >> reporter: first of all last night there was a special mass at the catholic church where so many of the victims including federal judge roll were parishioners and members. so that was kind of a private coming together. tucson is while hurting, i think it's safe to use the word honored that the president is coming. u of a is honored th eed that h
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coming here, a special arena known for athletic history and also somber events and this perhaps will give everyone a chance to have some collected shared moment of sorrow. people came out here to the campus, started camping out last night, of course the media village has been set up on a first come first served basis, people will be brought in and seated two hours before the event. >> the president and the first lady are going to visit some of the victims, they're going to the hospital. what else do we know about what their plans are in tucson? >> well, a few stops, a few things we can assume from the police activity, some of the white top helicopter test runs that have been going on around the area, indeed it looks like and local media reports have said this, they're going to the hospital. and otherwise, i think in cases like this, this president,
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president before him, they have both said it is the short verse of quality time where the families, the victims get to be the ones who determine how long the president stays. that means the world to them. the woman here who stopped the gunman from putting the second clip in, she was in line at a jack in the box here and her cell phone called, it was the president's assistant. she placed a call back, talked to the president of the united states sitting in here car. her life has been changed. she said it was the most humbling experience. he wanted to thank her for her act of courage, she wanted to thank others. that's how in a way tucson has changed person by person. >> and as we watch the president and first lady boarding that flight to tucson, we know that presidents, democrats, republicans, they have a very special role. this is the larger role of comforter in chief. we have seen it with ronald
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reagan, with challenger and we have seen it with this president at ft. hood. george w. bush obviously after 9/11, this is when presidents of both parties come together and there really is a suspension of politics and we have seen it also from the leaders of congress in both parties. the presidential role is so magnified and it is so important. >> reporter: some have been better at it than others, all have a pure heart about it. it's their role as consoler in chief. i'm reminded that we are not far from the air force base that was a dear part of congresswoman gifford's district. the military very important to her. we have had a-16, c-17s coming out, some of them appeared to be practicing to escort the president in. andrea, one more point, we're learning more about this gunman and it's just so heinous a case,
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his living in his dreams, telling friends the sky is orange, the trees are blue. nothing matters, only bedlam, only chaos appealed to him. as one broadcaster finally said in exasperated on live television last night, this was a crazy person, and crazy people don't live in the life we all share and in this case took in lives. >> there really should be a re-examination of mental health and all those issues, after covering the john hinckley case 20 years ago, that was a case adjudicated as being insanity and it was just that pure and simple, it had nothing do with politics, it had everything to do with the bizarre health issues that should come out of the closet. and brian will be hosting a very special edition of nbc nightly
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news live from tucson tonight. every half hour we'll be broadcasting nightly news. the president is not speaking of course until tonight as we have been pointing out. but sarah palin has already delivered her own video on facebook this morning, blasting her critics, opening a whole new controversy. joining me now long-time democratic strategist bob shrum and msnbc political ammist pat buchanan. people are saying she's got to come out and speak, she can't just e-mail glenn beck, she's got to release her comments. she doesn't have anything specifically to connect her to this shooting, this bizarre, insane deed. but then she comes out and she comes out in a highly produced fashion, an address with the flag and teleprompter obviously and creates a whole new
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controversy. so let's talk, bob, first, about was there any good approach for her? wasn't she going to be criticized no matter what she did? >> i don't know, i think governor pawlenty had a good idea which was to suggest that there never should have been gun sights put over her district and some other districts. i think she simply could have said, i'm sorry, i don't think it had anything to do with this, but i wish we had never done it. i think that would have ended the controversy and helped her. but what she's done is basically appealed to glenn beck and her base with this video she's put out there. the use of the word blood libel for example, it essentially refers to the killing of jews in europe. she says in the piece that there is no reason to believe that -- or that we should not be deterred from the kind of speech that that she wants to engage in by those who embrace evil and parade it as good. now who's evil here? this is a view of the political
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yuan versus where you're either good or you're nefarious, pat and i disagree about everything almost all the time. i don't think he's evil, i think he would grant that i'm not evil, but just that he's wrong. we should get back to that dialogue. >> i do want to point out that pawlenty, i don't know if you saw that pawlenty backed off and he wasn't really criticizing her, just saying i wouldn't have done it and then he softened it even further on "morning joe." let's play a little bit. >> if you don't like a person's vision for the country, you're free to debate that vision. if you don't like their ideas, you're free to propose better ideas, but especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn.
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that is reprehensible. >> pat, could she have defended herself? or should she have just avoided that and said let's focus on the victims and sort of risen above it as david frumm had suggested a few days ago? >> i think she's done exactly right in a sense. first i think she was correct in staying out of this and letting this and there has been vitriol and hatred pointed at her. like she said there's not a single shed of any evidence that had anything to do with this individual who apparently bore a grudge for three years against the congresswoman. and three years ago she was still governor of alaska. i think she's goes to respond to this because this is an unsupportable slander. it is vicious, columnists like david brooks, people who condemn the viciousness are engaged in this vicious attack upon her. i think to say what she did
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calling it what it is as reprehensible and insupportable slander and the other part of her statement i thought was exactly right, so i thought the deechbt interval that she waited for four days while this was going on before responding was correct and i thought it was an excellent statement. with regard to the phrase blood libel. that refers to the charges against jews that were utterly unsupportable slander and i think she's using it in that context. >> bob, if she had avoided the phrase blood libel, perhaps she didn't know the context of that phrase. it has been used in the "wall street journal" by a columnist, maybe she was ignorant it of it. does she create an inevitable compa compareson, aside from the politics of it how does this compare to what the president
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will be doing, by releasing it on the morning of his speech. that's clearly not an accident. >> no, i think it's intentional. but i think it will help the president. i think he will rise eloquently to the demands of this occasion. i think he's where and will speak to the place where the vast majority of americans are. and i think after we listen to him and after we listen to her, we'll understand why he's president and why she never will be. let me say about what pat just said. i think he's entirely wrong. i don't think he's the least bit evil. i think it is amazing that sarah palin goes out there and suggests for example that the people who disagree with her are evil. >> uh-huh. i don't think she suggested that people who disagree with her are evil. >> pat, she did, read the statement. those who embrace evil and parade it as good. >> let me say this about sarah palin. >> read the statement. >> she is not a dispenser of hate, mr. shrum, she's a victim. >> i didn't say she was.
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>> it's been three or four days. >> i suggest that the people that disagree with her are evil. we're vigorously debating pat, but i don't think you're evil. >> what i'm saying is that sarah palin is not a dispenser of hate, she's a victim of hate and i think there's an awful lot of people in the last several days- >> she's no victim. she's been out there taunting people for two years. >> but wait a minute, you do not draw a moral connection or moral dots between sarah palin's statement -- i'm talking to andrea -- between her statements and what happened, what that evil individual did and that is what is being done and that to me is unsupportable slander, it is outrageous, she has a right and obligation to respond after taking this for four days and i do think people have been responding to the people who have been doing this and we know who they are. >> and we're going to have to leave it there. to be continued. bob shrum, patrick j. buchanan,
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president obama is heading to arizona at this hour where he is expected to meet with the families of the shooting victims. before ahending tonight's memorial. david remnick is the author of "the bridge" the rise and fall of president obama. the bridge just out in paper back.
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congratulations, david, it's an extraordinary book. the epilogue updates it with a new interview with the president. he said in terms of communication, speaking of tonight that tonight's speech is going to be pivotal for the president. why? >> well, remember why the public that did like barack obama and does like barack obama kind of liked him in the first place. it had to do with his life story, it also had to do with a demeanor, with a sense of how political dialogue should be carried on, and a sense of propriety, a sense of calm and cool. i think we have seen replayed the last couple of days pivotal speeches by ronald reagan in the wake of tragedy and bill clinton in the wake of the oklahoma city bombing and this is barack obama's moment and i think that he will rise to it. and i think he will not court controversy. i don't think he'll take on in any full throated way the discussion about a toxic political atmosphere. i think he knows well that to join those two subjects where you basically have somebody
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who's incredibly sick, carrying out a horrendous, brutal act and then joining it automatically and to automatically to the political atmosphere which is admittedly toxic courts not only political danger, but a kind of ethical danger. >> you've been surprised at his failure to communicate more effectively in his first two years in office, especially considering all the skills that he showed during the campaign. >> i think also considering his achievements. i think his achievements have been really considerable, beginning but not only health care, despite whatever compromises he had to make. look at this last run of achievements, legislative achievements in the lame duck session. i love all of it. i certainly didn't love the maintaining tax breaks for the rich. but by any measure, that was a very successful run and in many ways, the first two years was successful largely in the aversion of worst disaster,
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economic and otherwise and his ability to sell those achievements to gain political credit for them has been not what we might have imagined when we remember the communicator of the campaign. >> what do you think about sarah palin's statement today. it looked official, the flag and very carefully scripted. in that context, having put so much effort into it, waited for self-days, come out with this video brilliantly timed some would say to draw an inevitable comparison with the president, why use the phrase blood libel? >> god knows because blood libel is something that anybody with a knowledge of jewish history knows the deep and terrible meaning this has. i don't know why she would use that phrase, ignorance may be the best, but not a particularly satisfying explanation for it. that said and i am no fan of sarah palin, and i think she's a politician that began her
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national career with the enunciation of all kinds of toxic things including palling around with terrorists and all the kind of rhetoric we remember very well from the campaign, which has never really stopped. i think to associate her in a very direct way with this terrible tragedy is wrong. i just do. >> and what do you think of her presentation on the video? >> well, any time you have a presentation where you use the crucial phrase becomes blood libel, i think you've made a terrible mistake and that mistake is going to be contrasted with a very eloquent and composed presentation tonight by the president and a deeply felt one and i don't think he's capable of that kind of rhetorical misstep. >> thank you very much david. and stay with us for special live coverage of course of tonight's memorial beginning at
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and now to the larger question of gun violence and gun laws in the wake of saturday's mass shooting. you have written about the calm before the storm and the slechbs about guns and you don't hear any politicians wanting to talk about it other than carolyn mccarthy. >> there is no anti-gun party anymore in america. the democrats, i think, unfortunately abandoned the issue after 2000, after al gore's loss in the belief that if a democrat couldn't win
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southern states, he couldn't become president. that's really false, but the belief led them to say, well, we can't be an anti-gun party, we won't get southern votes anymore. therefore, people now are calling for toning down anger, i'm all for that. for calm, i'm all for that. i'm all for silence to honor the dead and wounded, i'm all for that. the silence i'm against is the silence that leads to nothing, that leads to no change in our gun laws. you know, president obama, i can guarantee you will give a magnificent speech tonight. he's really good at that. but he's also the candidate who promised change. change we could believe in. and so i hope that unless he's waiting to use it in his state of the union that he uses some
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of his time tonight to talk about meaningful gun laws that america could adopt at the democratic party and even the republican party could support. >> you know how unlikely that is given the political context you just gave and the fact that gabrielle giffords is a gun supporter within certain limits, but in fact in 2004, the congress of the united states let the assault weapon ban and the ban that included magazines such as the cliff that jared loughner was allegedly using. so there has been such a retreat on gun laws from the democratic party and certainly a republican house is not going to move on it. >> it's going to take people of extraordinary courage, political courage, to even bring up the topic. some are doing it now. and they are attacking it on the gun clip issue. no one needs 33 bullets in their
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guns. perhaps we can start there on that small issue and build. >> and perhaps not laws that would permit concealed weapons to be carried on to college campuses in the after math of all that we have experienced over these years. >> i would go for that. coming up next, former senate majority leader tom daschle. and weather delivering a powerful punch to new england and floods threatening australia's third largest city. this is unbelievable. i have never seen anything like this in my life. >> all this cost of what mother nature's doing to the country, what can wie do about it? it's devastating. four decadent flavors. 60 calories. it's me o'clock -- time for jell-o. four decadent flavors. 60 calories. seven years ago, i had this idea. to make baby food the way moms would. happybaby strives to make the best organic baby food.
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bridge brinsbane is now preparig for floods later today. the water has ripped many homes from their foundations and others have become islands leaving residents clinging to rooftops. thousands of people have been evacuated from their homes, many dissenters like this to escape the flood surge that's expected just a few hours from now. some 30 of brisbane's suburbs have been inundated in the last few hours, the water swallowing entire neighborhoods. the commercial center of the city is especially vulnerable. some roads are already flooded. the area almost desserted with sandbags piled along the walls of shops and offices, most of which have been shot down in nervous anticipation. power supplies that threaten parts of the city have been cut, but the last time brisbane saw
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flooding like this was 1974 with predictions it will be worse this time. the surging water has already hit inland towns where the destructive force of the water has been likened to an inland assume. -- tsunami. the rain has slowed today but that has done little to slow the water into the city. >> here in the united states where of course snow is now on the ground in 49 out of 50 states, every state except florida. boston in particular under a blizzard warning and that's of course where we find the weather channel's jim cantore. always in the worst places, revere, massachusetts. right now it looks pretty grim. jim? >> reporter: yeah, it really is. andrea we had nothing on the ground at this time yesterday, and all of this, 10, 12 inches which is falling in revere, which is only about five miles
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from logan airport to the north. it's not just a light snow, it's a very heavy wet snow, very caky that sticks on the roadways. look at these roads, we had snowfall rates two, three inches an hour. look at these trees, all just flocked with snow, basically with the wind that has gone from the southeast to the northwest. already 100,000 people without power. most of our high wind gusts have been down on the cape. now that storm is blowing up, they're back in through here. that's the big fear tonight, roads icing up, even though they're clear and certainly a chance for more power outages and that's why governor patrick has declared a state of emergency here in massachusetts. >> jim cantore out there in the weather, that creates exactly the challenges and a perfect segue because on the phone now is governor deval patrick. >> i was listening to the report out of australia, we're not as bad as there, but we're
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managing. >> that is the only comfort, cold comfort, no pun intended because you're facing an ice storm and the aftermath of this and high winds. so what's a the biggest challenge for the state? >> we have, the storm is about as forecast, meaning that it came when it was forecast to come, we have gotten a little bit more snow than we expected, the difference -- and i'll say in eastern massachusetts, your reporter was just saying up to 12 to 18 inches in eastern massachusetts. but out in the western part of the state, up to 30 inches. the problem has been that it is warmer and heavier in the eastern part of the state than anticipated which present the issue with downed limbs and power outages and we have got all four utilities with extra crews that they brought on site in advance from outside the region dealing with that right now. >> i know you folks up there are real experts at this, but as mike bloomberg and others have learned at their peril, for
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political leaders, this is always a test, a real political test of manhood if you will, of being able to clear the snow. how do you avoid the pitfalls? >> we have got a great crew, as you say, we have been through this a few times already, we have got over 4,000 vehicles out right now, pieces of equipment, thousands of people both state workers and independent contractors, we have brought in. our emergency management team is gathered at our operation center and we check in regularly on the weather and with individual emergency managers in our 351 cities and towns so our coordination is good. we don't think we will need to do evacuations, because as i say the eastern part of the state, the snow is so heavy and so wet. we are concerned about those power outages. so in the event people are
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unduly inconvenienced and uncomfortable, we do have the capacity to put them into shelters as well. >> good luck to all of you up there. the president meanwhile and first lady of course as we have shown are now en route to tucson. more than 14,000 people expected at the university of arizona tonight. hundreds turned out last night for a church service honoring the victims. and joining me now, former senate majority leader tom daschle from capitol hill. at a time like this, what do you think you want to hear from the president? i know he is so wonderful at uniting the country, he has shown this before, president bush, president clinton before him. this is a real moment for leadership and what do you expect that we'll be seeing? >> andrea, i think you're exactly right. certainly the american people and the people of arizona and tucson are looking for healing words, they're looking for words
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of strength, somebody to remind us that we have been through these difficult times before and we have always survived and flourished and i think the president is capable and certainly i would guess even looking forward to the opportunity to fill that role and to show us the kind of leadership and inspiration that the country needs right now. >> let's talk about sarah palin, just in the context of a beautifully framed and photographed presidential style speech if you will, released on facebook this morning, i want to play a little bit of it and ask you about her presentation and how you would assess her impact in all of this. >> after the shocking tragedy, i listened at first puzzled, then with concern, and now with sadness. to the irresponsible statements from people attempting to apportion blame for this terrible event. there are those who claim political rhetoric is to blame
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for the despicable act of this deran deranged, apparently apolitical criminal and they claim political debate has somehow gotten more heated just recently. but when was it less heated? back in those calm days when political figures literally settled their differences with duelling pistols? >> do you think she has a point? >> well, i think that it's been a very divisive debate, unfortunately, andrea and i think that's probably to be expected in some ways. i think regardless of whether or not this ultimately was a politically motivated act, i think the most important thing we can say is now is not the time for politics, now is not the time for some ideological confrontation, now is the time to come together, to calm the concerns and the frustrates and the anxiety of the american people and people that are affected by this directly. i think that's what all political leaders need to do and i hope we can see more of that
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going forward. >> did she meet that test? does her video create more calm, lead to more calm? or does it fuel the fires? or is she right to be responding because she was unfairly criticized as some would say? >> certainly she has the right to defend herself and to explain her actions and to better position her own views with regard to these circumstances. and perhaps what's happened over the last couple of days, the real question is now as we go forward, how is it that we can find the right balance between making sure that we make our points, but not in a way that's so divisive that further polarizes and alienates the vast majority of american people. they're looking for healing, they're looking for ways to reach beyond all this emotional and confrontational rhetoric and i think we owe it to them to make the effort to make that happen.
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>> and her use of the phrase blood libel. >> i think that's an unfortunate phrase. i think that again, it incites certain concerns and definitions and connotation that is don't think are accurate. but again i don't want to get in the middle of a debate i just said we should try to avoid. but i think the bottom line is we have got to be very careful with the words we use. >> thank you very much, tom daschle, good to see you. >> good to see you, my pleasure. and a program note tomorrow on "today," tom delay joining matt and meredith to talk about his being sentenced to three years in prison. that's tomorrow morning on "today." and developing right now on "andrea mitchell reports," a bomb squad is investigating a report of a suspicious package at a mail facility in northeastern d.c. the same facility that a package ignited last week. we'll be right back.
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it's the one year anniversary of the earthquake in haiti. in only 30 seconds, most of the capital city was reduced to rubble. more than 200,000 people were killed. an estimated 800,000 people in haiti are still living in tent cities. pi bill clinton says that progress has been made but he's frustrated by the slow pace of the recovery. >> in the end, we outsiders can't do this for the haitians, we have to empower them to do for themselves so when this is done they can support themselves. every day there's hope and there's frustration, but i say hope still outweighs the frustration. >> mara spoke to president clinton and joins us now from port-au-prince. what are the reasons for the failure of the relief to reach the intended victims as effectively as it was designed
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to be? >> in my conversation with president clinton, he said that fundamentally this is an issue of the systems here in this nation noting to set up to deal with the challenge, whether it's government systems, health care and the like. he did say that he's encouraged by government support and that about 60% of pledges have been distributed. however in the last year, we have seen minimal signs of progress, it's estimated that only 10% of the rubble has been removed, you see it as you drive around the city, piles of concrete rubble everywhere. also as you mentioned, there's more than 800,000 homeless people living in tent cities, it should be noted that down from the peak of 1.5 million in july, now they are dealing with the added health threat of cholera, safety and security concerns, especially for women who are living alone in those tent camps and many fear we could be seeing more turmoil in the country in the next few weeks, the results of the next presidential
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election will be announced soon and that could lead to violent protests, just one more set back for recovery in this nation. >> it really is an extraordinary challenge. thomas tag is president and ceo of direct relief international, a humanitarian medical organization he was also chief of staff for the peace corps under president clinton. you just returned from haiti last night. what can be done given the enormity of the challenge? >> it's a staggering set of challenges and there's really nothing to compare to the sheer loss of life of 230,000 people in a matter of minutes, we have nothing in the history of the u.s. to compare it to. recognizing that puts it in some context, but like anywhere else it's a combination of a private economy getting going, jobs and government that provides security and stability for the people.
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and within haiti to provide those things that the government is unable or unwilling to cover and things that don't make great business sense but still need to get done. so direct relief has been really trying to provide medical care which was frail to begin with, got broken in the earthquake and is now trying to deal with the double whammy of a big cholera epidemic that's killing people. >> what we're hearing from our reporters down there is that the initial reports from the election observers indicate there are going to be challenging to the legitimacy of the election which could lead to potentially more protests, as we know down in haiti what that could mean as well. so you have less stability and the likelihood you're not going to have an effective government with whom to channel relief. >> right, i think that for the long-term you need a functioning government anywhere. there's no scenario in the world where either businesses do everything or governments do everything. so both private businesses and
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governments have to play their roles. so we're focussed just on the health piece. and there's groups like partners in health that we work with extensively that are doing a lot of clinical services in trying to shore up the human resources needed and provide the care, so in the interim, just within health alone, there's staggering challenges so direct relief is really focussed on trying to bring in is needed resources and be sure that's sufficient allocation and distribution and transparency in that process, which thankfully we have been able to do despite the reports of other materials being held up in customs and other matters that cause frustration. >> what can we do aside from the fact that we have failed to really follow up as effectively as many people think we should have, all of us collectively as a nation. >> it's not hard to find a tough, frustrating story in haiti. there's no option to quit. this is something that's unprecedented in our hemisphere's history and to recognize that 230,000 souls,
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it's a deep wound to a small country, they need help and it's unreasonable to expect it would be completed in a year. so i think the biggest challenge is for people not to hit and to hang in there and to keep pushing as hard as we can and stay frustrated if it helps you focus and get better. andrea. check out thegrio.com for a special "haiti: one year later quaets. [ male announcer ] introducing listerine® zero™.
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which political story will be making headlines in the next 24 hours? chris is joining us. hi, chris. this is -- >> hi, andrea. >> this is a tough day for the nation. what are you expecting? >> yes. well, look, i think obviously the big news, the president's speech in tucson later tonight in primetime, coming now after
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sarah palin has released this statement and videos. a lot going on. i went back and just briefly looked at bill clinton's speech after the oklahoma city bombing, george w. bush after september 11th and ronald reagan after the challenger, actually, explosion. the fascinating thing about all three of those was how short they were. even bill clinton, famed for sort of being long-winded in speaking, nine total minutes that speech at the oklahoma city memorial. george w. bush and ronald reagan, four minutes each in those speeches. so my guess is this is going to be brief. the reason why it's not about the president. it's about the victims. i think that's the goal. everyone around the president says this is not a political speech. let's keep the focus where it belongs, which is on the victims. we'll see a very short speech tonight by the president. >> interesting. we should point out that abe foxman of the antidefamation
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league has just said palin should not be targeted by this. but at the same time, they wish that she had not used the phrase blood liable because of the connotations. they point out it's become part of common speech. >> and just very quickly, this was a 1,141-word statement on -- thatt she put out on facebook. two words are what is going to dominate the whole coverage. i feel like it's the conundrum of sarah palin. it's a very thoughtful statement with this one very loaded phrase put in there that now overshadows everything else. understanding her and her politics is something i struggle with every day. >> and something has raised questions about whether she needs a wider circle to bounce ideas off of rather than being as self-contained as she is. we'll have more on that tomorrow and tonight in the coverage. thank you, chris. that does it us for for this
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edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow on the show, minnesota governor mark dayton joining us. richard lui has a look at what's next on "news nation." >> thank you so much. in the next hour, the president of the university of arizona joins us live. president obama set to speak on his campus tonight. what kind of message is he hoping the president will bring? and we're learning new details about the alleged gunman and a run-in he had with an officer just hours before the rampage. and jason chaffetz says he plans to carry a concealed weapon when he's in his home district in utah. he joins me live next on "news nation." ♪ [ male announcer ] from jet engines that have fewer emissions,
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right now on "news nation," preparing for the tribute in tucson. the president and first lady on their way to arizona for tonight's memorial as new information about jared loughner is released including why he was stopped by police just before he

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